tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8417850843973944836.post8235013118013275192..comments2024-02-27T00:19:14.984-08:00Comments on Burning Zeppelin Experience: 100 Post Shuffle!Markhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16741134687274260833noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8417850843973944836.post-65691460163111845542009-02-13T13:42:00.000-08:002009-02-13T13:42:00.000-08:00@ AlberyThat's sort of what I mean, though. What I...<B>@ Albery</B><BR/><BR/>That's sort of what I mean, though. What I'm saying is that the distinction between quality and fun is entirely artificial. People consume what they want to consume. That which is consumed is effective at communicating its message. Trying to create an idea of "Quality" as separate from "fun" seems... well, I'm tempted to say it's an effort to bolster games that aren't very successful by claiming they have some ephemeral quality that makes them better even though they aren't as popular as other games. I won't say that, because Baker's never produced anything less than excellent games, and I hesitate to accuse someone of such blatant intellectual dishonesty.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if Edwards really is brusque. I've only ever heard him interviewed, and he seems like a powerfully opinionated man, but I'd be the last to claim that that's bad thing. I'll have to meat him some day and find out.<BR/><BR/><B>@ Ben</B><BR/><BR/>Always glad to share!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8417850843973944836.post-81107394044136948232009-02-12T20:36:00.000-08:002009-02-12T20:36:00.000-08:00I like your principles. A lot. I'm going to adopt ...I like your principles. A lot. I'm going to adopt some of them, because I'm just not introspective enough to come up with stuff like that on my own. :)Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12182579211549382453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8417850843973944836.post-59369651344932974032009-02-12T18:43:00.000-08:002009-02-12T18:43:00.000-08:00You Are Not Safe HereI dunno, man. First off, he e...<A HREF="http://www.lumpley.com/comment.php?entry=159" REL="nofollow">You Are Not Safe Here</A><BR/><BR/>I dunno, man. First off, he explicitly dissociates "Quality" from "Fun" there. Second, it seems more like a set of logical premises from which to work than anything else. "I am interested in developing X and Y. 'For the purposes of discussion here'*, things that increase X and Y are good, and things that reduce X and Y are bad." In that context, "But I like less X" is not a constructive contribution.<BR/><BR/>I'm basically with you on the brain damage thing, though. There may well be <I>something</I> of value in there, but by the time you prune back the logical weirdness and trademark Ron Edwards brusqueness**, it's probably not that big a deal.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and don't feed the pigs to the pigs. Then you get mad pig disease, and nobody wants that.<BR/><BR/><BR/>(*direct quote)<BR/>(**that's the charitable word for it)Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12225098013513783549noreply@blogger.com